On #12MinConvos with Engel Jones!

Sometimes, having a podcast means you spend a lot of time connecting with people, hearing their story, and focused on getting it to people. And sometimes it means that you get to be someone else's guest, share your story and experience, and they help YOU get the word out.

I'm incredibly thankful that I was able to join Engel Jones for a 12 Minute Conversation on his show. If you're interested in discovering my earliest childhood memory and why it was so confusing to me, you can check it out by visiting his website or just click the Play button below.

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How Terry Hoggard Got Started as a Missionary

Terry Hoggard has served in Europe as a missionary, has helped create networks of churches supporting each other and growing together and he's now working with Convoy of Hope. This is how he got started.

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Where and what people do you primarily serve?
Serve globally with Convoy of Hope International and in International Church development

How do you serve those people?

  • Crafting strategies
  • Coaching synergy
  • Creating solutions

When did you begin to realize that you had a heart for missions or ministry?
In 1972 I was impacted, in 1982 I was profoundly impacted.

How and when did God lead you to this? How did you recognize His call?
On a mission trip to Columbia in 1972, as the result of divine awareness in 1982.

Did you have a clear and measurable goal for ministry?
Yes … to passionately engage with progressive leaders to co-create a change process that will inspire and to develop strategic initiatives that promote networking opportunities.​

What would you do differently if you were starting today?
Be more aware of the organic development that comes thru obedience and excellence.

How do you connect with new partners or supporters and stay connected with your existing partners?
By building covenant, communicating intentionally and creating meaningful connection.

What books, tools, or resources that are important to doing what you do?
Identify and connect with like-minded and right-spirited individuals.

How do you get ongoing training and coaching?
I pursued coaching certifications and receive training “life on life” engagement.

What first steps or training would you recommend that others just starting out?
Take the time to build a solid academic foundation … and keep building!

What is a critical mindset or perspective regarding listening, teachability, flexibility, grace, etc?
Awareness of the possibility that people bring to us if only they can be heard.

Knowing what you know now, would you do it all again?
Absolutely … and love it all the more!

Terry Hoggard

Terry Hoggard

Missionary, Vice President: Convoy of Hope International Program

 

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How Dylan Dodson got Started as a Church Planter at New City Church in Raleigh, NC

Dylan Dodson is a pastor, podcaster, and church planter in Raleigh, NC. God has been incredibly faithful to him over the years. Here's how he got started.

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Where and what people do you primarily serve?
New City Church in Raleigh NC

How do you serve those people?
Lead Pastor

When did you begin to realize that you had a heart for missions or ministry?
Not until after my father died when I was 19. Up until that point, I never really thought or had a desire to go into vocational ministry.

How and when did God lead you to this? How did you recognize His call?
Difficult to answer briefly :). Biggest turning point was a few weeks after my father died, I really felt that pastoring/church planting was what God was leading me to be a part of.

Did you have a clear and measurable goal for ministry?
The vision for New City Church is to be actively reaching 50,000 people by 2040. We hope that God would allow us to be part of something like this through the planting of churches, so that collectively, through us and the churches we send out, we are reaching 50,000 together.

What would you do differently if you were starting today?
So many things! I don't think I can answer this briefly!

How do you connect with new partners or supporters and stay connected with your existing partners?
Since we begin the church planting process a couple of years back, we have built an email list. That and social media is how most people who aren't a part of New City Church stay up to date with what we are doing.

What books, tools, or resources that are important to doing what you do?
We are part of the Acts 29 church planting network. Community is so important! We have been blessed with some great people as well at New City Church. I've read too many books on pastoring/church planting to really select just a few. I would say always being willing to learn and grow from others is key.

How do you get ongoing training and coaching?
Through Acts 29, as well as local pastor gatherings I am a part of in my area.

What first steps or training would you recommend that others just starting out?
For church planting. A lot of people say they want to do church planting, but aren't willing to submit themselves to a local church and serve faithfully there (everyone wants to skip right to planting a church). I have yet to see someone plant a healthy church where they did not first serve somewhere else. With that, find a network or denomination or somewhere to get trained and assessed. You cannot plant a church on your own.

What is a critical mindset or perspective regarding listening, teachability, flexibility, grace, etc?
Realize you don't have it all figured out. Be willing to try new things and fail, and also be willing to take wise counsel. Also don't think (because it isn't true) that there are no other churches where you are planting that don't really love Jesus or “do church” the right way. Learn from those in your area who have been doing ministry there longer than you!

Knowing what you know now, would you do it all again?
Great question. Church planting is one of those things (like most journeys in life), where if you saw what you would have to go through and deal with before you had to deal with it, it would be really hard to commit to doing it. I would certainly do some things differently if I had to do it all over again, that would hopefully make the process a little sooner. At the end of the day, if people are meeting Jesus as a result of what we are doing, all the difficulty in the world is worth it.

Dylan Dodson

Dylan Dodson

Pastor, Church Planter

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How Karl Meisterheim Got Started as a Problem Solver

Karl Meisterheim is a problem solver focused on using technology to advance Kingdom work. He works as a consultant and is the founder of SupportGoal. He spent several years working in an partner-supported position and then transitioned into the marketplace. But while he was in that position, he saw the need for something like SupportGoal.

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Where and what people do you primarily serve?
I serve missionaries and ministries locally (Ohio) and online

How do you serve those people?
By providing expertise and software tools to help with fundraising

When did you begin to realize that you had a heart for missions or ministry?
As a college student I was involved with a local campus focused church. The experience of ministering to my fellow students through leading bible studies and sharing the gospel awakened a desire to make my life about ministry.

How and when did God lead you to this? How did you recognize His call?
From a vocational standpoint I felt a leading through several circumstances about two years after college. I was working full time as a computer programmer while still involved in the local church and college ministry. God used a couple of books and some physical limitations to gently prod me into taking a step of faith by leaving my job and going on staff with the church.

Did you have a clear and measurable goal for ministry?
My goal was to pursue being a pastor of a local church while focusing on ministering to college students

What would you do differently if you were starting today?
I would have been smarter about how I went about fundraising and developing not just ministry partners but champions – people who share the vision for what we are doing and are working to live it out in their own context.

How do you connect with new partners or supporters and stay connected with your existing partners?
While I'm no longer support-based, I stayed connect by faithfully sending out a monthly newsletter and setting aside time during the year to catch up with partners by phone or when visiting my home church.

What books, tools, or resources that are important to doing what you do?
I'm biased but I believe SupportGoal is a great tool 🙂 I think that Support Raising Solutions and the book ‘The God Ask‘ are also helpful resources

How do you get ongoing training and coaching?
Currently by engaging with other missionaries to hear about their experiences and by participating locally with my chapter of the Mission Increase Foundation which is a ministry that helps ministries (with fundraising, board governance, communication etc.)

What first steps or training would you recommend that others just starting out?
Get connected to other fundraisers – there's a wide disparity among the quality and content of training that people receive regarding fundraising. The more you learn from others the better equipped you'll be to improve and excel at the work you're doing.

What is a critical mindset or perspective regarding listening, teachability, flexibility, grace, etc?
Humility is key – never assuming that you know the best way or that just because someone is coming from a position of less experience or success that they don't have something to offer. In addition, measuring and assessing performance so that you can make meaningful changes in the quest to improve the way that you work and fundraise. If something isn't working – fix it!

Knowing what you know now, would you do it all again?

Yes – but with a better attitude!

Karl Meisterheim

Karl Meisterheim

Consultant, Founder: SupportGoal

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How Ramon Pastrano IV Got Started as an Ambassador of Jesus Christ

Ramon Pastrano IV is the CEO-President of ImpactLives. Not only does he help organizations create a culture that honors people and fosters creativity and collaboration, he also provides leadership training and leads mission trips. This is how he got started.

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Where and what people do you primarily serve?
At the national local level I serve faith based groups-churches, businesses, non profit organizations, government, education and social services enterprises. At the international level, we serve people in about 15 countries in 4 continents.

How do you serve those people?
Through our laboratory for social responsibility and innovation (national and international), we combine transformational leadership training and education, with service learning experiences and work of social justice. At our core we are about helping people and organizations understand who they are; and how they can use their unique talents to serve, meet needs, and lead others in a positive way. We believe that if people understand who they are, others around them, and why they do what they do, they will be more effective in all relationships and be inspired to meet communities' needs through social innovation, social justice and freedom.

We achieve this by guiding individuals, groups, and organizations through carefully designed leadership development experiences that help them become change agents. Through our work we help people identify who they are and combine that knowledge with their passions and values in ways that empower them to establish and achieve a vision for their own lives, and create the conditions for others to achieve the same. This is sustainability; empowering and helping others become the person that God created them to be.

When did you begin to realize that you had a heart for missions or ministry?

I found myself on a short term mission trip in the middle of the sugar cane fields in the Dominican Republic. This is where I grew up. However, this time I was in the company of wealthy Americans trying to meet the (assumed) physical and spiritual needs of poor Dominicans and Haitians refugees living in the Bateyes. No one had any idea about what they were doing, but they were doing it in the name of Christ. It became obvious to me that the leaders of these Christians organizations were sending untrained people to carry out such missions. The needs targeted by this group were interpreted as individual deficiencies rather than as symptomatic of larger contextual problems. This was the typical response to a need as a deficiency (the need is seen as individual problem only and not as an issue resulting from a system or context in which the individual cannot meet that need him or herself), the person who fills the need becomes more powerful than the recipients and so the latter are devalued or demeaned.

In the process, I became frustrated and hopeless. What right do we have to enter into people lives, arrive unannounced, create more chaos in their lives, and then leave?

How and when did God lead you to this? How did you recognize His call?

When I expressed my frustration and hopelessness to my friend and pastor, he looked at me straight into my eyes and asked me, “what are you going to do about it?” at first, I thought he was kidding, but then the question was fried at me a second time. Up to this point I have never considered the fact that perhaps I was supposed to be doing something about it. Prayerfully and Critically reflecting on that question changed my path in life.

After a short time I attended seminary and soon after was invited into the emerging leaders program where I earned my doctorate in Global and Contextual Leadership. During the same 8 years my ministry was born and took shape

Did you have a clear and measurable goal for ministry?
I believe that I have always had a clear and measurable goal for ministry. In fact, it is very similar to the biblical model introduced by Jesus. The name of the game is “Transformation.” But, not as traditionally defined. Transformation is not merely an extension of, or improvement over the past but is an actual change from the past. The change may be spontaneous or gradual, dramatic or invisible, radical or moderate. But however the process may be measured and described, by definition it is a departure from the past. Its authenticity is proven if the change is maintained on an internal and external level in the life of an individual and an organization.

The degree and nature of actual transformation will of course be influenced by context and the point in an individual’s or organization’s lifespan and life cycle in which the change occurs. But whatever its degree and nature, change will always involve the heart. Most often transformation includes cognition, but the heart is still the center of all true change. In other words, one cannot think oneself to change but together one’s heart and mind can move the person to change. This is because transformation includes change or modification of foundational structures in the sphere of the subconscious, extending even beyond the realm of consciousness. The Greek word for transformation is “metamorphos,” from which the English word “metamorphosis” comes. Metamorphosis is the process through which a caterpillar becomes a butterfly. The caterpillar’s transformation provides a metaphor that evokes the idea that change involves the total being, the subconscious heart and all its constituent parts, as well as the thinking faculties.

What would you do differently if you were starting today?
Focus on improving my listening skills. God is always speaking and directing our steps, but we are not always listening.

How do you connect with new partners or supporters and stay connected with your existing partners?
We are a “below the iceberg” or “at the roots” organization. This means that we are addressing issues at the root cause of the problem not at the surface. For this reason many individuals, churches and organizations do not know us. Furthermore, because the complexity of our work and the long and arduous journey of transformation, our partnerships and support is very limited. Unfortunately for us, in our culture there is a seduction with the temporary, quick fixes and instant gratification that makes raising support very difficult. Many churches fall under this category.

For those who partner with us, they become part of the journey. The information flows real time and they are always in the know.”

What books, tools, or resources that are important to doing what you do?
At impactLives we customized all of our trainings and tools. Most of them come from our research. However, in the field of short term mission some of the most recent and powerful tool I have used are: the film “Poverty Inc.” which says exactly what i have been trying to say for the last decade. Books such as “Travesty in Haiti,” When Helping Hurts,” “Toxic Charity,” “Wasted Charity,” and “Dead Aid.” In the Mission and Church Planting there are many great books and tools that could increase the effectiveness of this type work. I used many of them with Ministry and Culture Class.

How do you get ongoing training and coaching?
Currently, I am providing training for many organizations in locally, nationally and overseas. Personally, I receive my coaching from Jesus Himself. I have spent the last three years studying the fullness of Jesus through the Gospels as one of His companion.

What first steps or training would you recommend that others just starting out?
For those who claim a Christian faith, my recommendation is very simple: Read, eat, breath, drink, sleep and live the four Gospels: Know intimately the one that you are going to serve. Receive first, from the one you are going to serve. The most powerful “four letter word” in the bible is the word “WITH.” Mark [3:14] “He appointed twelve that they might be “WITH” him and that he might send them out to preach and to have authority to drive out demons. Jesus chose Twelves to be “WITH” Him, and this means that before we go out to do anything in his name, we need to go to Him first. It is during that “WITH HIM” time that the disciples learn what Jesus is teaching them. It is during this “WITH HIM” time that they experienced what Jesus says about “I am doing what I see my father in Heaven doing.” Notice also that this “WITH HIM” time, is not just a few hours or days…it could be longer than the three years the disciples spent “WITH HIM.” Keep in mind that Paul himself spent three years in Arabia “WITH HIM” before his ministry began.

I know this is countercultural to a lot of churches who want to send people in short term mission trips to give them “a taste for mission.” But, how can you give what you have not receive? How can you witness about one you don't know? How can you share a gospel you have not experienced?

We must remember those short but powerful remarks that Jesus made: “As the father have sent me, I am sending you, Love one another, as I have loved you.” The implication here is that the only way one can know how he/she is being sent, is by being “WITH HIM.” The only way one can know how to love other is by experiencing first the love of Jesus. And how can one experience the love of Jesus? by being “WITH HIM.”

What is a critical mindset or perspective regarding listening, teachability, flexibility, grace, etc?
Listen from a generative standpoint. This is not easy. Generative listening means that you are listening by connecting with your the heart and mine thus creating the greatest potential for a shift in perspective. Teachability begins with an open mind, which is the ability to suspend judgement and consider/examines multiple perspectives. Regarding grace, we must learn to grant the grace of positive assumptions. Do not refrains from speaking truth or making a judgement call on things that you certainly know are wrong. But when you do, remember to extend the same grace giving to you in Calvary.

Knowing what you know now, would you do it all again?
In a heart beat.

Ramon Pastrano IV

Ramon Pastrano IV

CEO-President, ImpactLives

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How Ernie Peacock Got Started as a Church Planter

How Ernie Peacock Got Started as a Church Planter

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Where and what people do you primarily serve?
We are missionaries, but our calling is church planting. We've planted 12 national (Mexican) churches, and have helped train and mentor dozens of church planters is Spain. In January 2018, we're returning to Guadalajara, Mexico, to plant the International Church of Guadalajara.

When did you begin to realize that you had a heart for missions or ministry?
Just a couple of months after my salvation experience, on a missions trip to southern Mexico

How and when did God lead you to this? How did you recognize His call?
The Lord deeply impressed upon my heart two months after my salvation experience, and during a missions trip to southern Mexico, that He had a ministry call upon my life. The ministry and missions call was almost simultaneous.

Did you have a clear and measurable goal for ministry?
Yes, to obey!

What would you do differently if you were starting today?
I would work smarter, not necessarily harder.

How do you connect with new partners or supporters and stay connected with your existing partners?
Multi-media and social media platforms. We itinerate every 5th year and visit supporting and new churches to give updates and cast fresh vision.

What books, tools, or resources that are important to doing what you do?
LDR Church Development Process, by Dr. J. Melvyn & Martha Ming, & Steven Mills; Off-Road Disciplines, Earl Creps; The Gospel of the Kingdom, George Eldon Ladd; Mission of God, John York. Multiplication Network Resources provide several great books of planting healthy churches, Mentoring, Diagnostics for healthy churches and leadership.

How do you get ongoing training and coaching?
Listen to podcasts, sit in on live training sessions (Church Marketing University-Ryan Wakefield), Leaders.Church (Dick Hardy-The Hardy Group), Growing Leaders (Tim Elmore). I have a seat at the table with World International Church Network.

What first steps or training would you recommend that others just starting out?
Theological, Cultural, linguistic, and missiological training

What is a critical mindset or perspective regarding listening, teachability, flexibility, grace, etc?
Be led by the Spirit of God, be submissive, be open to different perspectives,

Knowing what you know now, would you do it all again?
100%.

Ernie Peacock

Ernie Peacock

Missionary, Church Planter

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