Small Shrimp + Big Faith in Honduras, with Jeremy Wainwright – EM278

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This is episode 278 of the Engaging Missions Show.

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Today we're talking with Jeremy Wainwright of Shrimp Matters about little faith, a

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big God and stepping into the unknown.

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You would think God speaking to me so clearly the way that he

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did that, I wouldn't worry anymore.

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Welcome to the Engaging Missions Show, where

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we are bringing missions home.

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Here's your host, Bryan Entzminger.

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Today.

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I'm just so happy to be able to introduce to you Jeremy Wainwright.

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He's the founder of Shrimp Matters with the goal to share the love of Jesus

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with the people of Honduras and to equip them with resources, but with shrimp

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playing a pretty big part of this now, personally, I'm not a huge fan of shrimp,

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at least not for eating, but I do see some of the creative ways that God can

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use this to provide through Jeremy.

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So Jeremy, welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you for having me.

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I really appreciate it.

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Oh, it's totally my pleasure.

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I'm really glad that we were able to do this.

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And, and frankly, I'm glad that you reached out to me to, to just ask if this

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was an option, because I'm really glad to be able to do this as we get started.

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I think probably the name shrimp matters.

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A lot of people might not know what that is.

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So can you maybe share with us a little bit about what shrimp maters is?

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Okay.

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Shrimp matters is actually, I started in the beginning of 2019.

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The whole idea.

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I actually went on a mission trip in October of 2018.

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My very first mission trip short-term mission trip.

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And when I got back home, I was praying about opportunities to help.

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I saw the poverty and in Honduras, and I saw the crime.

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There's so much crime and.

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Andras as well.

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And just so many areas of brokenness there and it really touched my heart.

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So I started praying about opportunities, what I could do to

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help out in any way whatsoever and, uh, remained very good friends.

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Even after the mission trip with a man there named Augustine Garcia, he

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was a local there that would go help serve his community alongside of us.

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And I got in touch with him and.

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We just would talk back and forth and we'd pray back and forth about the people

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of Honduras and the brokenness there.

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And shortly after that at work, I had a conversation with a friend that

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had been on a mission trip to central America, actually in Guatemala.

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And she had actually been to a village that had a tilapia farm that had funded.

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The entire village, it had a small hospital, it had several

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other things there, but it was all started by just this a tilapia farm.

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And it was intended just to feed the people there, but it wound up producing

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a sustainable income for that village.

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So I thought this is wonderful.

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So, uh, got in touch with my friend Augustine Garcia, and I said, uh, Can we

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look into this as an opportunity in, uh, in Honduras and through a lot of prayer

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and research, we discovered that in the Southern part of the countries, there

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were areas there that had shrimp farms and that we could lease the property.

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And we did all the research that we needed to figure out, okay,

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how do we even go about this?

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And we figured out where we could buy the larva, you buy the

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shrimp larvae and you feed them.

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And they grow and act before much everything can be sold.

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And from that, we were thinking, well, there could be jobs there.

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Wow, this has been done.

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And after that, with, with all the funding that come from the sale,

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we could build homes that we could, uh, help with the clean water.

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There there's a lot of areas that doesn't have clean water at all.

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We, and we can help out with a lot of things such as that, and even

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feed the people that are hungry.

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So it was a very self-sustaining kind of idea.

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So that was the initial idea of, of shrimp matters.

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What later came, I guess that where the name actually drive was after

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we basically had this idea and God revealed this great idea to us.

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We kept praying for further opportunities.

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And at one point at my church, we were doing a series and I had spoke

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to, uh, the campus pastor there about my dream and this whole mission.

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And he said, you know, I've got a series coming up and.

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It would be perfect to share this with everyone.

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So when I shared it, that was when everybody started coming

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up to me and saying, Hey, I want to be on board with this.

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So that's, that's how the whole thing initially started.

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It's really interesting to me because you, you shared that this

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essentially came out of an experience on a mission trip and then kind of

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maintaining a relationship, but there are.

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Lots of people that go on mission trips, then don't have this kind of response.

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Is there a reason why that trip spoke to you in such a way that you said,

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you know what I have to step in?

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I don't want to say step in and do something like I'm going to save people.

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Right.

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But I have to be part of what God wants here.

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What was it that really spoke to you?

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I spoke about my friend, Augustine, that I've,

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we talk pretty much on a.

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Weekly basis.

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And we have pretty much since that first trip that I had, but something

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that he told me that has never left me that initial week in 2018, he

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said, I have been part of these, what they refer to as brigades.

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It's a lot of North Americans that will come down every week

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on short-term mission trips.

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And he said, I have been part of this for nearly 15 years.

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He said, I've helped serve alongside.

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And he said, I can count on one hand the people that have even responded back to

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me that I've even spoke to a second time.

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And.

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I just could not believe that weekend and week out there was so many

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people go in there, but very, very, very little follow up whatsoever.

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And, you know, God really touched my heart with that.

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So that's when I, that's, when I really decided I'm going to be very,

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very intentional about reaching out to him and seeing what I can

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do to help the people founders.

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Well, I, I appreciate that.

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I mean, it sounds like you, you really have a desire to be a

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man of your word and to follow through in a manner of integrity.

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Is that, is that accurate?

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I don't know how I would say, you know, I guess I'm someone

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where I would never probably say that about myself, but that is something

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that always staying has said.

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He said, you have always constantly been whatever you

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say, you can take it to the bank.

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And that does make me feel good to know that, that he actually

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feels that way about me.

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So that's, that's great.

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You've mentioned a little bit about the vision for this, that perhaps in a

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few years, this might be self-sustaining to provide jobs and income and

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infrastructure education, like all of the things that can happen because of that.

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I'm wondering as you look forward to that other ways that you also

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see this being self-sustaining, besides just the money keeps kind of

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recycling, if you will.

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Yes.

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I see it in so many different ways.

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I mean that you have, the money will actually be.

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You know, recycling, but something that I want to make sure that happens is

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that the local churches are involved.

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That there's a lot of community effort as a whole, when a lot of these

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activities are being done, whether that be the building of homes, I would like

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to see a lot of scholarship programs with a lot of the children, because

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what tends to happen in Honduras so often is, uh, the presence of the.

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You know, Ms.

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13 is very, very present there.

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And in Honduras, Ms.

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13, Ms.

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13 has a lot to do with the drug cartel.

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A lot of it you probably heard of in Colombia.

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Well, it's present also in Honduras and there are local gangs there in the

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capital city, around the capital city.

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And what happens between 11 and.

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Cite 15 years old.

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A lot of kids are brought in at a very, very young age into this organized

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crime and that becomes their life.

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And they wound up either someone that is later killed or maybe

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someone that winds up killing others.

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And it that's, that's basically how this whole thing starts

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is at a very, very young age.

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So if we can somehow or another provide something that.

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These kids can see another direction, maybe some type of hope in some other

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way that that would get them away from those types of environments.

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That's something that we're really, really looking forward to as well.

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I like that.

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I mean, that's a great vision, right?

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To provide alternatives as well.

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I think that's important.

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You mentioned the local involvement of the church.

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I think that's stellar.

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I think that's almost required for this kind of thing.

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What do you think that involvement needs to look like?

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Well, I think in so many different ways that if we can

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partner, you know, the, the shrimp farm itself and other opportunities

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that we see in the future, that's, uh, that is, uh, a source of income.

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That would be just there and in Honduras.

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But, but if, if used effectively, if done effectively, like we're wanting to do

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in the future, hopefully we can partner with these local churches to where, when.

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We are in these, when these churches are located, say in these areas that

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have high levels of poverty, that the charts themselves can go and serve the

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people directly in their area and reach out to them, maybe partner with them.

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There can be a lot of even, uh, one instance that I know of for example,

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is there's one small local church I saw there that had a small sewing ministry.

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That they would bring people in.

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And it was a job opportunity right there for some of the people.

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So that was the local church reaching out and giving.

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It was several widowed women, the opportunity to be able to provide

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for themselves and just opportunities like that is what I like to see

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more of coming from the revenue from, from the shrimp farm itself.

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Wow.

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That's that's great.

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This is, if I remember it, this is a fairly new ministry.

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No, it's very, very much new.

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Like I'm still, it's very safe to say that, you know, God

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has just opened up the doors.

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Cause I there's so much that we still don't know, but just how far God has

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taken, this is just amazing to me.

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One of the things I've been wondering.

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Cause I think you're maybe one or two.

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Are they called crops?

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Yeah.

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W w we refer to them, I guess, as a harvest, more is

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what you do than anything.

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So you're a one or two harvest in there was at the time that we're

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recording this about nine or 10 months ago, there was the start of the

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whole global pandemic COVID-19 thing.

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I'm assuming that impacted your travel.

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Uh, it impacted travel, but it also impacted the second harvest as well.

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Uh, that was the negative part of what has went on in the, during

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the global pandemic was what happened during the second harvest.

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The first harvest went well.

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We were able to harvest 5,500 pounds.

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And from that harvest, there was someone that pulls straight

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up to the shrink form itself.

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They purchased the shrimp there and they leave.

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So it was a very, very simple transaction there and yeah, it was amazing.

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So we had the funding to reinvest and we also had the

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funding to help the community.

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Cause that's basically all that was, do we want it to be able to provide jobs

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during the shrimp farm itself while shrimp forum going on, but on the back end of

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that, we wanted to be able to reinvest and everything left over would go to rot

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back into the community, whether that be.

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To build homes to help clean water, to feed those that are hungry.

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So first harvest went well about the time we started.

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The second harvest was when the global pandemic really hit,

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uh, Honduras extremely hard.

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And their government was very, very, very strict because their healthcare

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system and Honduras is not anything like it would be in the United States.

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So their government got very, very strict as to who could be out.

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And when.

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And it got to the point that you could only be out one day every two weeks.

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And that was not enough time for us to be able to get the food we needed to feed

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the shrimp and to do the things that we needed to do to keep the shrimp alive.

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So the shrimp, I actually died in the second cycle, so I am currently in the

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process of getting it back up and go.

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And again, since that has happened,

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so what does it look like to get it back up and running?

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Is it what's

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involved?

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It would start with just the total, uh, startup cost.

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Uh, and the total startup cost is just below, uh, around $8,000 just shot $8,000.

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It would be that would cover the lease of the property that covers the bond,

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the shrimp larva fading the shrimp lower for those four months and providing

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three jobs for those four months.

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And on the back end of that.

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That's where we will harvest and that's where we will do this again.

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I, and the thing is that the wonderful thing about it is God

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showed me through the first one, you know, with the first harvest.

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Everything went wonderfully.

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And God showed me that this is something that can truly happen.

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And the second cycle is just an example of, we live in a broken

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world where we try to plan things.

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We try to do things, but in the general scheme of things, sometimes in this

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broken world, things don't go as planned.

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But I do understand.

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That through those times, God can use those for something good.

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And the thing that I see now is it really allows me to just look at everything as

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a whole and say, okay, in the future, when we get this going, what can we

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do to be able to worst case scenario?

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How can we really be prepared next time for worst case scenario?

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Because I didn't think about that until this happened.

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Yeah.

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So have you already raised the money for the second one?

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I've raised almost half.

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And some of that funding I sent actually down for the relief

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from the hurricanes that hit.

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In October.

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So I sent some emergency funding down for it.

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So I'm just short of half of what we need to, to get the initial cost back going.

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But, but my goal is in the future to have even more in reserve, just

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in case something like that happens again, uh, like, you know, like

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the global pandemic was something that, that really set us back.

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So hopefully we can.

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Really, really, uh, just plan ahead in the future to where it wouldn't

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really set us back this fall.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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That's

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I mean, I'm glad that you're that far along, I'm thinking about

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maybe the people that are listening.

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So if you're listening right now and you've been looking.

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For something to do, maybe God's been stirring in your heart that

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there's some level of investment that he'd like for you to make.

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I'd like to encourage you to prayerfully consider Jeremy and shrimp matters.

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We'll have a link for you to be able to connect in the episode notes

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so that you can go find out, pray about it and see if God would have

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you be involved in this because.

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We already know that God has the resources.

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The question is whether or not he wants you involved.

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And I don't know the answer to that, but I would encourage you to pray about

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it because this could be an opportunity for you to invest in what God's doing.

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So I just encourage you to do that.

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I'd like to kind of take a bit of a step back, Jeremy, because we mentioned that

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a lot of this kind of started with the, the mission strip, but there's this one

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kind of burning question in my mind.

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Why'd you go on that trip?

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I would guess the first thing that really got me to go and more so than

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anything was it had been a thought in my mind, I guess it was one of those, I

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guess you could say bucket list things.

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I guess I had at one time, I just, I thought, you know what?

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I really just need to go on a mission trip, uh, short term and just see

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what it's like and just experience a lot of things that I've never been

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able to experience before and see if there's any way, you know, that

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I can reach out and love others.

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And that was just the.

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The initial thought and it had been going on for years and, uh, a friend of mine

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from church called me and he said, he said, Hey, he said, uh, would you like to

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go on a mission trip to Honduras with me?

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And I said, uh, you know what.

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Ask think, I think I will.

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I said, I know.

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And when he called me that w there wasn't really that much time to, before we were

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actually going to leave, I had to hurry up and get my passport and everything.

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So, but I said, you know, what, if I can swing it all in time, I think this

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would be perfect time for me to do that.

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So, and you know, when I went on my first mission trip, I was probably.

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Thinking a lot of the things that anybody else would go in on a mission trip, you

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know, I mean, a lot of people probably worry about a lot of the, a lot of the

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things about leaving the comforts of where they live in the United States and, you

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know, We were told when we first got down there, do not drink any water, do not

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brush your teeth with any of the water.

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And a lot of things like that, a lot of people probably

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think about things like that.

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But as something that I want to encourage people that maybe are worried about

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situations like that are worried about being in a different environment like that

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is very, very, very quickly into the trip.

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It shifts from you not thinking about yourself to you pouring into others and.

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Anybody that I have ever talked to that has been on a mission

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trip will tell you the same thing.

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And I think for no other reason, we just get so complacent.

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I feel like day in and day out here in our normal jobs and our normal activities.

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And I feel like we're a lot of times the center of our daily lives, but I think a

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mission trip just changes to perspective.

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Of everything and it did for me.

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So I went from being very selfish, worried about getting sick from drinking the water

Jeremy: 00:18:05

there too, by the end of that week, I'm crying because I don't want to leave.

Jeremy: 00:18:11

And it was just amazing.

Jeremy: 00:18:13

So that's really how I started, but I just want to encourage

Jeremy: 00:18:17

people that may be listening to this, that, you know, maybe they.

Jeremy: 00:18:21

Are thinking about missions and never have went.

Jeremy: 00:18:23

I want to encourage you to go.

Jeremy: 00:18:24

It will change your perspective of everything.

Bryan: 00:18:28

Wow.

Bryan: 00:18:28

That's that's I mean, that's, that's so true, but yeah, I

Bryan: 00:18:30

appreciate you sharing that.

Bryan: 00:18:32

As you've been building these, you started from a trip that turned into

Bryan: 00:18:37

a vision and then some relationships that started you on the path of, okay.

Bryan: 00:18:41

I think this is something that we could do during the course of this.

Bryan: 00:18:44

Were there ever times when you thought this is too hard, I'm going to quit.

Jeremy: 00:18:48

There's been several times where I just felt like, I don't

Jeremy: 00:18:53

know if the word quit ever came up, but I will honestly say that I have

Jeremy: 00:18:58

questioning the timing many, many times.

Jeremy: 00:19:00

There's so many times I feel like God always comes through.

Jeremy: 00:19:03

Then I feel like every time that I get to a point that I don't feel like

Jeremy: 00:19:06

things are moving fast enough so quickly forget that God's timing is the best.

Jeremy: 00:19:11

So I will honestly say if I have.

Jeremy: 00:19:14

Taking anything from that.

Jeremy: 00:19:16

It's the fact that I've worried too much and I have not dressed it God enough,

Jeremy: 00:19:21

through this process, even though he keeps continually specifically showing me what

Jeremy: 00:19:27

the direction forward is, I'm interested

Bryan: 00:19:29

to know if you can share with us one of those experiences where

Bryan: 00:19:32

you weren't sure about the timing or there's something like that.

Bryan: 00:19:35

And God said, no, this is the way this is the time.

Bryan: 00:19:39

Yes, you can.

Jeremy: 00:19:41

Absolutely.

Jeremy: 00:19:41

This is why.

Jeremy: 00:19:43

The organization that, uh, that I am starting is called shrimp matters.

Jeremy: 00:19:48

At this point, I have the name chartered through the state of Tennessee and

Jeremy: 00:19:52

our next steps will be to completely establish the board and we will be a

Jeremy: 00:19:57

nonprofit within the next few months, but.

Jeremy: 00:19:59

The name is already charted as strep shrimp.

Jeremy: 00:20:02

Miters and that will be the story that I'm going to share with you.

Jeremy: 00:20:04

That really where God just, okay, God can just completely spoke to me.

Jeremy: 00:20:09

He's like, okay, this is what you need to do.

Jeremy: 00:20:11

And it's not, you know, it was as clear as can be that this was the past

Jeremy: 00:20:15

forward, but I was telling you earlier, How I was sharing this with my church.

Jeremy: 00:20:22

You know, there was a series that came up and I had the opportunity

Jeremy: 00:20:24

to share what God had laid on my heart and what possibly could be done

Jeremy: 00:20:29

through this idea of the shrimp farm.

Jeremy: 00:20:32

So I shared it with the church before I got up there, I talked to the

Jeremy: 00:20:36

pastor and he said, you need to, you know, specifically I ask people for.

Jeremy: 00:20:41

For funding, he said, go ahead and do that.

Jeremy: 00:20:43

And he said, you know, is there anything that God's laid on your heart?

Jeremy: 00:20:46

And I said, well, I said, I I've pretty much at the time.

Jeremy: 00:20:49

Uh, I told you the startup cost is just under 8,000, but at the

Jeremy: 00:20:53

time I had to undershot it, I was thinking it was around 7,000.

Jeremy: 00:20:57

So God had laid on my heart at that time.

Jeremy: 00:20:59

He's like, for some reason when I saw that number, I just, you know, I saw that

Jeremy: 00:21:03

if I could get 70 families, 70 people at a hundred dollars, if I could get.

Jeremy: 00:21:09

People to donate 70 families at a hundred dollars, I would be right

Jeremy: 00:21:14

where I needed for this thing to start.

Jeremy: 00:21:16

So I told the pastor about this and he said, okay.

Jeremy: 00:21:21

He said, you need to share that.

Jeremy: 00:21:22

And I said, well, I don't like ask it again.

Jeremy: 00:21:24

I don't think anybody is really comfortable just being like,

Jeremy: 00:21:27

Hey, can you donate to this?

Jeremy: 00:21:29

I mean, it, it's a very, very uncomfortable position to do that.

Jeremy: 00:21:32

He said, no specifically say that.

Jeremy: 00:21:36

So I got up and.

Jeremy: 00:21:38

I told her about the shrimp farm.

Jeremy: 00:21:40

And I told him about the idea and I told him at the end, he said, is

Jeremy: 00:21:44

there any way that we can support you?

Jeremy: 00:21:46

And as uncomfortable as it made me feel, I say that, I said, if I could get 70

Jeremy: 00:21:50

families or 70 people to donate a hundred dollars, I said, this thing can get going.

Jeremy: 00:21:56

And I said, that door will be open.

Jeremy: 00:21:57

And you know, we'll get to see what God's doing through this mission in Honduras.

Jeremy: 00:22:01

And at the end of the service.

Jeremy: 00:22:03

There was person after person, after person that came up to me

Jeremy: 00:22:06

specifically with a hundred dollars.

Jeremy: 00:22:09

And one woman in particular came up to me and, uh, she was crying.

Jeremy: 00:22:14

Her hands were shaking.

Jeremy: 00:22:15

She said, I have a hundred dollars to give you, but she

Jeremy: 00:22:18

said, I got to tell you a story.

Jeremy: 00:22:19

She said, you won't believe how specific this is to what I just heard you say.

Jeremy: 00:22:24

She said I was at red lobster earlier this week.

Jeremy: 00:22:28

And she said I was sitting there and she said, I noticed over at a couple

Jeremy: 00:22:32

of tables over that there was a woman sitting there and she was looking through

Jeremy: 00:22:36

her purse to try to pay for the shrimp cocktail she about, and I could tell,

Jeremy: 00:22:42

she obviously thought she must've had it.

Jeremy: 00:22:44

And she didn't.

Jeremy: 00:22:46

So she said, uh, motion to her waitress to come over.

Jeremy: 00:22:49

And she said, I paid for her shrimp cocktail.

Jeremy: 00:22:52

And she said, I settled up there.

Jeremy: 00:22:54

And she said a few minutes later, a man from another table came over and she

Jeremy: 00:22:59

said, he looked down at me and said, Hey, he said, ah, I saw what you did over

Jeremy: 00:23:03

there, pay it forward for that woman.

Jeremy: 00:23:05

He said, I just really, really appreciate what you did.

Jeremy: 00:23:08

And he.

Jeremy: 00:23:10

Went to give her a hundred dollars bill.

Jeremy: 00:23:11

He said, I want you to have this because it looks like you're someone

Jeremy: 00:23:14

that would do something good with this.

Jeremy: 00:23:15

I've already seen your heart.

Jeremy: 00:23:17

And she said, no, no, no.

Jeremy: 00:23:18

She said, I'm fine.

Jeremy: 00:23:19

She said, you know, I'm comfortable.

Jeremy: 00:23:21

God's a place me.

Jeremy: 00:23:22

I have money.

Jeremy: 00:23:22

He said, no, no, no.

Jeremy: 00:23:23

I want you to keep this.

Jeremy: 00:23:25

And when he handed it back, he said, shrimp matters.

Jeremy: 00:23:28

So that is the whole, when she told me this story about shrimp matters

Jeremy: 00:23:35

and the a hundred dollars of the a hundred dollars that she gave me

Jeremy: 00:23:38

was the same hundred dollars that he had gave her earlier that week.

Jeremy: 00:23:43

So, um, if I don't see how God could have spoke any more clearly, I think

Jeremy: 00:23:49

sometimes people refer to, you know, you hear God in his still small voice.

Jeremy: 00:23:53

I think God was shouting at that point.

Jeremy: 00:23:56

It's, this is the path forward,

Bryan: 00:23:58

man.

Bryan: 00:23:59

That's great.

Bryan: 00:24:00

As you've been going through this through the process, right?

Bryan: 00:24:03

There's a lot of things to build a lot of stuff to take care of.

Bryan: 00:24:06

Have you ever had to remind yourself, wait a minute, God told me back here

Bryan: 00:24:11

and so I can continue to trust him.

Bryan: 00:24:13

How, how does that work out for you?

Jeremy: 00:24:15

Yes, there's so many times that that has happened.

Jeremy: 00:24:17

I mean, especially through this pandemic when the first harvest went so well and.

Jeremy: 00:24:23

We, we got some extra donations to build other homes too.

Jeremy: 00:24:26

So three homes actually got built.

Jeremy: 00:24:29

There were many, many, many families that got fed through the pandemic, just

Jeremy: 00:24:33

from what we had from the first harvest.

Jeremy: 00:24:37

And so many of those great things happen.

Jeremy: 00:24:39

So that was the reminder, even after.

Jeremy: 00:24:42

The shrimp had died in the second cycle.

Jeremy: 00:24:44

That look how much God has done.

Jeremy: 00:24:47

Even through these times where we've seen the brokenness liquid God has still done.

Jeremy: 00:24:54

But also I want to say I am very, very, very quick to forget, and

Jeremy: 00:24:58

I'm very, very quick to worry.

Jeremy: 00:25:00

And you would think God speaking to me so clearly the way that he did that,

Jeremy: 00:25:05

I wouldn't worry anymore about the next step, but me as a fallible human

Jeremy: 00:25:10

being, I'm so quick to forget, but I do.

Jeremy: 00:25:15

I am so, so thankful for what God has done through this mission.

Bryan: 00:25:19

I can totally relate.

Bryan: 00:25:20

I have amnesia all the time about this stuff that God's done in his promises.

Bryan: 00:25:25

I'm wondering going through this, this must have changed your relationship

Jeremy: 00:25:29

with God.

Jeremy: 00:25:30

Absolutely it, like I was saying earlier about the fact that I'd

Jeremy: 00:25:34

never, even before I'd been on a mission trip, I just felt like, um,

Jeremy: 00:25:38

I was more or less the center of my.

Jeremy: 00:25:42

Weekly activities.

Jeremy: 00:25:44

And, you know, I didn't really think of much more than what I needed to do.

Jeremy: 00:25:50

I have to go to work.

Jeremy: 00:25:51

I had to go do this.

Jeremy: 00:25:52

And I just honestly think through this process and through this mission

Jeremy: 00:25:56

and through me doing something that I'm not comfortable doing, and I've

Jeremy: 00:26:00

put myself in positions to where, you know, I've asked for funding where

Jeremy: 00:26:05

I don't really feel comfortable.

Jeremy: 00:26:06

I have been.

Jeremy: 00:26:07

In many ways, I've done a lot of things that I wouldn't ever imagine that I

Jeremy: 00:26:11

would ever do as far as stretching me as far as my comfort level.

Jeremy: 00:26:16

So if anything, my comfort level, and I truly think there is a direct

Jeremy: 00:26:22

correlation between spiritual growth and you being just out of your comfort zone,

Jeremy: 00:26:28

because I think once you walk in your comfort zone, if you sit there and your

Jeremy: 00:26:31

comfort zone, I have never felt gross.

Jeremy: 00:26:35

Like I have, when I am sitting somewhere where I'm like, okay, God, I really,

Jeremy: 00:26:40

really, really, really need you right now because I'm in a vulnerable spot or, um,

Jeremy: 00:26:43

you know what I mean, I'm uncomfortable or I'm really putting myself out there.

Jeremy: 00:26:48

So that's something that I've really noticed about my relationship is, uh, um,

Jeremy: 00:26:53

trusting him more and I'm just seeing him speak to me more through this process.

Jeremy: 00:26:59

So

Bryan: 00:27:00

you inadvertently headed down my notes to the next thing I was going to ask

Bryan: 00:27:03

you about, which is just great, because you mentioned that this has caused you

Bryan: 00:27:08

to grow, it's caused you to stretch.

Bryan: 00:27:10

And I'm wondering, can you think of a time where you had to grow in faith

Bryan: 00:27:16

or as a leader or something like that?

Bryan: 00:27:17

And tell us a story of how you, how God grew you through that?

Jeremy: 00:27:21

Yes.

Jeremy: 00:27:22

I think a lot of my growth would still.

Jeremy: 00:27:25

Go right back to, at some point through this ministry would be in some way.

Jeremy: 00:27:29

And my growth, I feel like the area where I feel like I truly need to

Jeremy: 00:27:34

ask for more growth is probably patience and understanding God's

Jeremy: 00:27:39

timing and time, and time and time again, he shows me I've got this.

Jeremy: 00:27:45

Don't worry about this.

Jeremy: 00:27:46

At one instance that I can think of was a.

Jeremy: 00:27:49

Shortly after I shared that story with you at church, that was funds that I

Jeremy: 00:27:53

had received, but I still was not even halfway to being funded to start this.

Jeremy: 00:28:00

And I thought, okay, this is another stopping point.

Jeremy: 00:28:02

I don't know what to do.

Jeremy: 00:28:03

And I'm worried.

Jeremy: 00:28:04

And I was getting impatient and I was like, God, what do I do?

Jeremy: 00:28:06

And I felt like I needed to start, you know, sharing this more.

Jeremy: 00:28:10

I felt like it was something that I needed to be doing.

Jeremy: 00:28:13

So I started looking for other opportunities and, uh, I would

Jeremy: 00:28:18

try every way that I could to try to whatever the next step was.

Jeremy: 00:28:22

I was trying to push it, but what God kept showing me was, you know,

Jeremy: 00:28:26

his timing is the best because at one point I had reached out to a friend

Jeremy: 00:28:30

of Augustine's the friend on Honduras.

Jeremy: 00:28:33

He had a friend in the United States, so I reached out to

Jeremy: 00:28:36

them and they were a journalist.

Jeremy: 00:28:37

Massive.

Jeremy: 00:28:38

Can you help me out with this?

Jeremy: 00:28:39

Is there any way that you can spread the word?

Jeremy: 00:28:42

And she said, sure.

Jeremy: 00:28:43

So she wrote something back to my local paper.

Jeremy: 00:28:46

And she said, I'm going to send something to your local paper to

Jeremy: 00:28:48

see if we can't get it out there.

Jeremy: 00:28:50

And I said, well, that's, that's fine.

Jeremy: 00:28:51

If he's like, that's the best thing to do.

Jeremy: 00:28:54

We'll do that.

Jeremy: 00:28:54

So I did that and that I heard nothing for, I don't know, maybe

Jeremy: 00:29:00

a month, month and a half then.

Jeremy: 00:29:02

Me, I'm getting impatient and I'm like, Oh, okay.

Jeremy: 00:29:05

I guess I'm going to have to try to get in touch with them

Jeremy: 00:29:08

again or do something like that.

Jeremy: 00:29:10

And so I was trying to force things again.

Jeremy: 00:29:12

So, and what happened was I called her again and I said, Hey, I

Jeremy: 00:29:16

never heard anything back from the paper is what should I do?

Jeremy: 00:29:20

And she said, well, you can reach back out to me.

Jeremy: 00:29:23

Do you want to, I hung up the phone and I drove about two minutes down the road.

Jeremy: 00:29:29

And the phone rang from the newspaper.

Jeremy: 00:29:32

And me being impatient that entire time, the newspaper gets in touch with me.

Jeremy: 00:29:37

And from that newspaper, the rest of the funding came because there

Jeremy: 00:29:41

was families that read about it and it came in and it was just one of

Jeremy: 00:29:44

those things again, where it was just like, God's like, I've got this and.

Jeremy: 00:29:50

It's really helped me grow.

Jeremy: 00:29:51

Wow,

Bryan: 00:29:52

man, that's a great reminder, right?

Bryan: 00:29:53

Because I don't know about everybody else listening, but I have a

Bryan: 00:29:56

tendency to try and do things myself so I can relate to that for sure.

Bryan: 00:30:00

Absolutely.

Bryan: 00:30:01

One of the things, and this is a little bit touchy to bring up, but

Bryan: 00:30:04

one of the things that can happen.

Bryan: 00:30:06

When we have a heart to minister to people is we can actually sometimes

Bryan: 00:30:11

end up doing more harm than good.

Bryan: 00:30:13

And I know this is something that when we were emailing back and forth, you

Bryan: 00:30:16

said, this is really important to me.

Bryan: 00:30:18

So can you share with me how you've tried to approach this so that you're

Bryan: 00:30:24

not leaving your thumb prints all over where God is trying to work if you will.

Jeremy: 00:30:29

Yeah.

Jeremy: 00:30:30

I think it all really started well, you know, when I did go

Jeremy: 00:30:33

on that first mission trip.

Jeremy: 00:30:35

I saw so many ways where I was like, well, you know, this is doing a lot

Jeremy: 00:30:38

of help for a lot of people just as helping out a lot of people that

Jeremy: 00:30:41

are living in poverty and need.

Jeremy: 00:30:43

And it was a great feeling.

Jeremy: 00:30:45

It is.

Jeremy: 00:30:45

It's a great feeling to go on a mission trip and to do all those things.

Jeremy: 00:30:48

And the problem is, and a lot of this came from a book that I read later

Jeremy: 00:30:53

that was called when helping hurts is so many people can come and approach

Jeremy: 00:30:58

missions from a really, really good place and still do a lot of harm.

Jeremy: 00:31:04

And I think the problem more so with that than anything is just the fact that

Jeremy: 00:31:11

we're not really taking the environment there into consideration or taking the

Jeremy: 00:31:16

people in general, how they feel into consideration when we're trying to help.

Jeremy: 00:31:20

A lot of times, I think we can alleviate things by just.

Jeremy: 00:31:24

Fixing what we see right there.

Jeremy: 00:31:25

If we see somebody that, that lives in poverty, a lot of times people

Jeremy: 00:31:28

will just like, well, we'll just give them some money or we'll just set up

Jeremy: 00:31:31

something here to where they're okay.

Jeremy: 00:31:33

But what we don't really realize is, you know, God is relational

Jeremy: 00:31:38

with all of his creation and, you know, we are created in his image.

Jeremy: 00:31:41

So we are relational as well.

Jeremy: 00:31:43

And not only are we relational with God, we're also relaters relational with others

Jeremy: 00:31:48

and we also have a self relationship.

Jeremy: 00:31:51

And the problem with poverty is it's not always about money.

Jeremy: 00:31:56

People that live in poverty.

Jeremy: 00:31:57

They have a problem with their self relationship

Jeremy: 00:32:00

because they experience shame.

Jeremy: 00:32:03

They experience fear being inferior or having no voice in these are lies.

Jeremy: 00:32:09

So, you know, that basically that they have within themselves because you

Jeremy: 00:32:14

know, the good news of Jesus crosses that, you know, he came to reconcile.

Jeremy: 00:32:18

And put all of, for relationships, whether that be a broken relationship with others,

Jeremy: 00:32:23

broken relationship with yourself, he came to reconcile all those things.

Jeremy: 00:32:27

So a lot of times by just giving money to something or just helping out, just

Jeremy: 00:32:32

to what makes you feel better just to what you feel like fix the problem

Jeremy: 00:32:36

might not be what the answer is.

Jeremy: 00:32:37

The answer might lie a lot deeper into, okay.

Jeremy: 00:32:41

Let's talk to this person and let's see what their talents are.

Jeremy: 00:32:45

And let's see if there's any way that we are actually can help the

Jeremy: 00:32:49

local church to walk beside them.

Jeremy: 00:32:51

And maybe they could possibly have a job in the future that way it

Jeremy: 00:32:55

might be, they can feel a little bit more like, okay, I am created in

Jeremy: 00:32:59

the image of God and I am special.

Jeremy: 00:33:01

And I am someone that does have talents versus somebody that's, I'm waiting

Jeremy: 00:33:06

on the next missionary to show up.

Jeremy: 00:33:08

So that's something that I've really picked up on that I

Jeremy: 00:33:12

didn't really know at first.

Jeremy: 00:33:14

So,

Bryan: 00:33:15

what does that look like in practice for you?

Jeremy: 00:33:18

To me looks more like, uh, especially like this opportunity with

Jeremy: 00:33:22

the shrimp farm, that's completely, the funds that were sent goes completely

Jeremy: 00:33:27

to a local it's Augustine, and this is not coming from the outside.

Jeremy: 00:33:32

And, you know, he has local churches that he is in contact with to where, when

Jeremy: 00:33:38

things are done, that's done in a, in a way like that, where it's not a brigade.

Jeremy: 00:33:44

Coming in, because what was happening is, you know, 40 weeks a year, you would have

Jeremy: 00:33:48

brigades coming from the United States and you have the same issues going on

Jeremy: 00:33:54

as far as the poverty, as far as crime.

Jeremy: 00:33:56

And as far as, you know, just no hope.

Jeremy: 00:33:59

And, uh, I think at the local level, reaching out and loving at

Jeremy: 00:34:04

the local level and doing a lot of those things like that will deliver.

Jeremy: 00:34:08

That message of hope more so than outside, allow the outside help.

Jeremy: 00:34:13

I want to see more change in the 51 weeks that I'm not there versus the

Jeremy: 00:34:17

one week that I'm actually there.

Jeremy: 00:34:18

I think that will deliver the message of hope more so than anything.

Bryan: 00:34:23

That's.

Bryan: 00:34:23

That's great.

Bryan: 00:34:24

And I appreciate your heart and your, your desire to, to essentially

Bryan: 00:34:28

give up leadership, right?

Bryan: 00:34:30

Because you've got Augustine, who's running this while you're there.

Bryan: 00:34:33

And I think that takes.

Bryan: 00:34:35

A real talent for understanding who's a good leader and who has that

Bryan: 00:34:38

heart, but also at least speaking for me from when helping hurts,

Bryan: 00:34:42

there was the elephant and the mouse.

Bryan: 00:34:44

If you haven't read it, go ahead, go ahead and read it from listening to this.

Bryan: 00:34:47

A lot of times I feel like the elephant and barely able to

Bryan: 00:34:51

hear what the mouse is saying.

Bryan: 00:34:53

And I realized that those.

Bryan: 00:34:54

Images might be off putting, but basically it's the image of a bull in a China shop.

Bryan: 00:34:59

And I appreciate your ability and your willingness to go.

Bryan: 00:35:03

No, no, this is how I need to do it so that I'm not doing that.

Bryan: 00:35:07

So I, I very much appreciate that.

Bryan: 00:35:08

That's, that's really great.

Bryan: 00:35:10

As you look over this, I'm wondering, is there anything that you wish

Bryan: 00:35:13

you would have done differently?

Jeremy: 00:35:16

I guess the one thing that always sticks out as far as

Jeremy: 00:35:19

what I should do differently is.

Jeremy: 00:35:21

The way, this whole thing is unfolded.

Jeremy: 00:35:23

Even the timing and everything.

Jeremy: 00:35:25

I'm just so thankful to God the way the whole thing's unfolded, because I think

Jeremy: 00:35:29

it's unfolded very, very, very quickly.

Jeremy: 00:35:32

But if there's one thing that I would do differently, I wouldn't have worried as

Jeremy: 00:35:36

much as I did because God's in control.

Jeremy: 00:35:38

And sometimes that's really, really tough.

Jeremy: 00:35:42

You feel like as you're going through the motions, it's really, really tough

Jeremy: 00:35:46

to let go of that control because we always want to feel like we're

Jeremy: 00:35:49

in control in some way, but God's ultimately in control and it's, it's so

Jeremy: 00:35:53

much better if we just let him have it.

Jeremy: 00:35:56

And let go of that anxiety and that worry.

Jeremy: 00:35:58

Wow.

Bryan: 00:35:59

Really good stuff.

Bryan: 00:36:00

For those that are listening, we are going to have a link for you

Bryan: 00:36:03

to be able to connect with Jeremy.

Bryan: 00:36:04

I think it's going to go to your Facebook page.

Bryan: 00:36:06

That's what you sent me, right?

Bryan: 00:36:07

Yes.

Bryan: 00:36:08

So you'll want to check out the episode notes, but for you, Jeremy, I'm

Bryan: 00:36:12

wondering for those that are listening.

Bryan: 00:36:13

If they're thinking, you know what I'd like to partner, maybe financially,

Bryan: 00:36:17

maybe some other ways, what are some of the ways that people can

Bryan: 00:36:19

get involved with what you're doing?

Jeremy: 00:36:22

Definitely like you were saying, I would love financially that

Jeremy: 00:36:24

that would be absolutely wonderful.

Jeremy: 00:36:26

But another thing is, you know, maybe somebody is listening that is a

Jeremy: 00:36:30

whole lot further along the process.

Jeremy: 00:36:32

And then this is in there.

Jeremy: 00:36:36

More seasoned as far as what is going on with some, a mission like this.

Jeremy: 00:36:41

I would love to have that conversation because there's, we have a relationship

Jeremy: 00:36:46

with our heavenly father, but we're all his children and he wants us to

Jeremy: 00:36:49

have relationships and he wants us to be able to communicate with one

Jeremy: 00:36:52

another and help one another as well.

Jeremy: 00:36:54

I would love to be able to learn from someone that may have been

Jeremy: 00:36:57

down that road before, or if.

Jeremy: 00:37:00

You know, if someone just wants to have a conversation and say,

Jeremy: 00:37:02

Hey, I feel like God's starting to lead me in this direction.

Jeremy: 00:37:05

Maybe I can help you as well.

Jeremy: 00:37:08

And just on my Facebook page, Trent matters is the Facebook page.

Jeremy: 00:37:12

Um, just message me there.

Jeremy: 00:37:14

I would love to have any type of conversation.

Jeremy: 00:37:17

So yes, anything financial would be great, but also if you just want to have

Jeremy: 00:37:21

a conversation, you know, I would, I would love to hear from anyone good stuff.

Bryan: 00:37:25

And before we close out, how can we best pray for you?

Jeremy: 00:37:30

But just especially prayed just during this, uh, just during this

Jeremy: 00:37:34

year, not just for me, but for anyone that's involved in missions or involved

Jeremy: 00:37:40

in church planning, it's just been a year where a lot of things have been

Jeremy: 00:37:45

shifted based off of the global pandemic.

Jeremy: 00:37:48

Just pray specifically that, that we stay thankful.

Jeremy: 00:37:53

That we show gratitude even in these times, and that we're able

Jeremy: 00:37:57

to readjust and that we're able to.

Jeremy: 00:38:00

See the good out of this and see how we can move forward as things

Jeremy: 00:38:04

start to get back to normal.

Jeremy: 00:38:06

But yes, please, please, please pray for this mission.

Bryan: 00:38:09

That's that's great.

Bryan: 00:38:10

And for those of you that are listening, I would encourage you

Bryan: 00:38:13

pause the recording and just take a second to pray, because if you're

Bryan: 00:38:16

like me, there's a really good chance.

Bryan: 00:38:18

You're going to wait until you go to bed.

Bryan: 00:38:19

And then you're going to forget now, who was I supposed to pray for?

Bryan: 00:38:21

That happens to me all the time.

Bryan: 00:38:22

So I really try to just stop and take advantage of those opportunities

Bryan: 00:38:26

because our prayers matter.

Bryan: 00:38:29

And our opportunity to be involved matters.

Bryan: 00:38:32

So I'd encourage you to do that.

Bryan: 00:38:33

If you want to connect with Jeremy through his Facebook page, we'll have

Bryan: 00:38:36

that link for you in the episode notes, just tap or swipe or click through

Bryan: 00:38:39

however you're listening so that you can find that connect with him and find

Bryan: 00:38:43

out how you can be involved or offer him that encouragement, whatever that is.

Bryan: 00:38:47

I would encourage you to do that.

Bryan: 00:38:48

Uh, Jeremy.

Bryan: 00:38:49

I just want to say seriously, thank you so much.

Bryan: 00:38:51

Not only for doing this, but for even just reaching out and

Bryan: 00:38:54

saying, Hey, is this a possibility?

Bryan: 00:38:56

I really appreciate it.

Bryan: 00:38:57

So thank

Jeremy: 00:38:58

you.

Jeremy: 00:38:58

Thank you so much for having me.

Jeremy: 00:38:59

I really appreciate it.

Bryan: 00:39:04

Thank you to Jeremy Wainwright for reaching out and

Bryan: 00:39:07

being willing to do this as well.

Bryan: 00:39:09

If you're interested in connecting with him, you can find all of his

Bryan: 00:39:12

links and all of that information.

Bryan: 00:39:13

In the episode notes.

Bryan: 00:39:14

If you're listening in your favorite podcast app, you can just tap,

Bryan: 00:39:17

swipe or click or however you.

Bryan: 00:39:18

You get to that and you can find all of that there so

Bryan: 00:39:21

that you can connect with him.

Bryan: 00:39:22

I am happy to report the leak.

Bryan: 00:39:24

Most recently, when I heard from him, he was funded and moving forward.

Bryan: 00:39:27

So that's really, really good, great news.

Bryan: 00:39:29

But if you're interested in connecting with him, that's how to do it.

Bryan: 00:39:31

Just tap, click, or swipe those episode notes, and you'll get to that information.

Bryan: 00:39:36

Now, as far as the show, I did mention this as a special edition.

Bryan: 00:39:40

Uh, Jeremy reached out to me and I really felt like this was

Bryan: 00:39:42

something that I was supposed to do.

Bryan: 00:39:43

And so here we are, took me actually a little bit longer than I'd hoped

Bryan: 00:39:47

to get this out to you, but that's, that's, what's going on with that as

Bryan: 00:39:50

far as future episodes for the show.

Bryan: 00:39:51

I don't, I still don't have any more plans.

Bryan: 00:39:53

So I just wanted to be really upfront with you and let you know that, uh,

Bryan: 00:39:57

if you want to stay subscribed to the show in case there's another one,

Bryan: 00:39:59

you're certainly welcome to do that.

Bryan: 00:40:00

And I'll be glad to get that out if, and when that happens.

Bryan: 00:40:03

And if not, uh, again, thank you for being here.

Bryan: 00:40:05

I really appreciate you.

Bryan: 00:40:07

And my hope and my desire is that God has spoken to you and given you something

Bryan: 00:40:11

that you can run with him with, whether that's something that you can run with,

Bryan: 00:40:15

that's connected to what Jeremy's doing, or maybe an answer or an insight that

Bryan: 00:40:19

you've gotten from today's conversation, or maybe just some encouragement.

Bryan: 00:40:22

But anyway, that's my hope.

Bryan: 00:40:23

And my prayer for you is that you have that with that.

Bryan: 00:40:25

I would like to say again, just thank you for being here.

Bryan: 00:40:28

I hope that you've have had a great time and that you're well,

Bryan: 00:40:31

and that your families are well.

Bryan: 00:40:32

And I look forward to connecting with you again, as soon as we're able to do that,